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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
		<link>http://adium.im/blog/2008/11/working-on-stopping-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-3305</link>
		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Adium</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Adium</p>
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		<title>By: not good enough</title>
		<link>http://adium.im/blog/2008/11/working-on-stopping-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-3276</link>
		<dc:creator>not good enough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 03:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This only blocks the message, but the message WINDOW still pops up and says the message can&#039;t be displayed.  Make it so no windows from the spamming bastards show if they get the question wrong.  The whole point is to limit the number of windows/tabs you get, I hate getting 3 tabs of crap when I&#039;m on Adium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This only blocks the message, but the message WINDOW still pops up and says the message can&#8217;t be displayed.  Make it so no windows from the spamming bastards show if they get the question wrong.  The whole point is to limit the number of windows/tabs you get, I hate getting 3 tabs of crap when I&#8217;m on Adium.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Peshek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Peshek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Andy:

Because of how MSN works, it does not really matter if you click those links or not. MSN clients respond with an ACK (acknowledgment) packet as soon as you get the message, so the bot knows if your screen name exists immediately. Our backend, Pidgin, does it this way because it&#039;s the proper way for the client to respond when offered an IM challenge. What everyone here is seeing (Switchboard not responding errors) is that the bots do not respond with the ACK (Why would they? They&#039;re just there to spam the network), so the MSN code gets confused and assumes that the bot is disconnected. What we need it a filter, and if the message is highly likely to be spam, don&#039;t send the ACK to the source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Andy:</p>
<p>Because of how MSN works, it does not really matter if you click those links or not. MSN clients respond with an ACK (acknowledgment) packet as soon as you get the message, so the bot knows if your screen name exists immediately. Our backend, Pidgin, does it this way because it&#8217;s the proper way for the client to respond when offered an IM challenge. What everyone here is seeing (Switchboard not responding errors) is that the bots do not respond with the ACK (Why would they? They&#8217;re just there to spam the network), so the MSN code gets confused and assumes that the bot is disconnected. What we need it a filter, and if the message is highly likely to be spam, don&#8217;t send the ACK to the source.</p>
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		<title>By: Zac West</title>
		<link>http://adium.im/blog/2008/11/working-on-stopping-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-3272</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Doug: certain services (aka MSN) still allow blocked users to message you but not see your status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Doug: certain services (aka MSN) still allow blocked users to message you but not see your status.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://adium.im/blog/2008/11/working-on-stopping-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-3270</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ http://adiumx.com/blog/2008/11/working-on-stopping-spam/#comment-3190

Exactly.

So... Why not add a feature that will challenge any person who sends a URL?</description>
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<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>So&#8230; Why not add a feature that will challenge any person who sends a URL?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://adium.im/blog/2008/11/working-on-stopping-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-3269</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will someone please explain this option in the above screen shot?

&quot;Hide messages from blocked users.&quot;

I thought if you block someone, you&#039;ll never see their messages. Now we have an option to toggle if we want to see the users messages or not? Wouldn&#039;t this make &quot;Block User&quot; ineffective?

I&#039;m so confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will someone please explain this option in the above screen shot?</p>
<p>&#8220;Hide messages from blocked users.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought if you block someone, you&#8217;ll never see their messages. Now we have an option to toggle if we want to see the users messages or not? Wouldn&#8217;t this make &#8220;Block User&#8221; ineffective?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://adium.im/blog/2008/11/working-on-stopping-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-3267</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another type of spam IM that you&#039;d likely need to filter out is this kind:  &quot;Hey changed my account my new one is blah_blah@hotmail.com&quot; or &quot;Hi I want to chat but this is my work account. Can you message me on my personal account blah_blah@hotmail.com looking foward to chatting.&quot;  I suppose there is some sort of auto reply with web info for some skin site and of course automated spamming/selling of a confirmed good email account but I have not, nor will I ever, reply to these so I can&#039;t confirm my hypothesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another type of spam IM that you&#8217;d likely need to filter out is this kind:  &#8220;Hey changed my account my new one is <a href="mailto:blah_blah@hotmail.com">blah_blah@hotmail.com</a>&#8221; or &#8220;Hi I want to chat but this is my work account. Can you message me on my personal account <a href="mailto:blah_blah@hotmail.com">blah_blah@hotmail.com</a> looking foward to chatting.&#8221;  I suppose there is some sort of auto reply with web info for some skin site and of course automated spamming/selling of a confirmed good email account but I have not, nor will I ever, reply to these so I can&#8217;t confirm my hypothesis.</p>
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		<title>By: foobar</title>
		<link>http://adium.im/blog/2008/11/working-on-stopping-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-3266</link>
		<dc:creator>foobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think this is the solution for me, because I think that an automated answer will &quot;verify&quot; my account for the spammers, leading to more spam on unfltered clients (iPhone).

I don&#039;t need a Bayesian filter, either. I just need to filter everything that contains &quot;http:&quot; and isn&#039;t from a buddy, and in authorisation-requests, too. I think that might be useful for others as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this is the solution for me, because I think that an automated answer will &#8220;verify&#8221; my account for the spammers, leading to more spam on unfltered clients (iPhone).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t need a Bayesian filter, either. I just need to filter everything that contains &#8220;http:&#8221; and isn&#8217;t from a buddy, and in authorisation-requests, too. I think that might be useful for others as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://adium.im/blog/2008/11/working-on-stopping-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-3265</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is nice but it would be nicer if Adium could just use the setting from MSN&#039;s Privacy settings like the previous version (1.3.1) did.  The settings I am referring too? Allow: only those in your contact list and Block: All other users.

I wouldn&#039;t mind if I could just download the older version again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is nice but it would be nicer if Adium could just use the setting from MSN&#8217;s Privacy settings like the previous version (1.3.1) did.  The settings I am referring too? Allow: only those in your contact list and Block: All other users.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind if I could just download the older version again.</p>
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		<title>By: Silah Sanayi</title>
		<link>http://adium.im/blog/2008/11/working-on-stopping-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-3260</link>
		<dc:creator>Silah Sanayi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spammer i hate them why dont u block this spammers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spammer i hate them why dont u block this spammers</p>
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