GPL and the Mac App Store

BJ Homer bjhomer at
Tue Jan 11 23:32:03 UTC 2011


While we're talking about crazy ideas, I know there was a project called
ChatKit a while ago. As I understood it, it was essentially going to
implement the various IM protocols in Obj-C and provide a simple Obj-C API
for them. (I believe Adium developers were involved in it, so please correct
me if I'm wrong.) If that's the case… well, would anyone have interest in
resurrecting that project? If libpurple is the dependency dependency that
prohibits inclusion in the Mac App Store, is it worth investigating
replacing it?

I acknowledge that this wouldn't be a quick solution; petitioning Apple to
make the App Store licensing terms GPL-compatible in the meantime is not a
bad option. But if that doesn't happen… well, how badly do people want Adium
to be on the Mac App Store? If a framework like ChatKit were the only
option, is there enough interest in the Mac App Store to explore that option

I'd be willing to help. I've been needing a good open source project to work
on for a while.


On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Zachary West <zacw at> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 18:08, Christopher Forsythe <chris at>wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Stephen Holt <sholt at> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Jan 11, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Christopher Forsythe wrote:
>> >
>> >> Can any of the libraries be taken out of adium in order to reduce this
>> >> number?
>> >
>> >
>> > libglib is the big one, and no - libpurple depends on libglib.
>> >
>> >
>> That's fine, I'd just need to start preparing to find all of these
>> people and making a list.
>> Do we know what kind of permission we'd need to ask for? Is something
>> like this adequate? "hey, we want make adium easier to download for
>> users, and we have to do x, y, and z to do that. We need your
>> permission in order to do that. Is it ok?"
>> Is the intention to put Adium in the store for free or for sale?
> This isn't going to happen, there's a huge amount of people who have
> contributed to the projects. If even only one of them isn't contactable or
> reachable it's gone. We basically need to relicense a core set of GPL
> libraries and that isn't going to happen.
> It would be free.
> I'm going to write a blogpost and hopefully have our users spam Apple with
> complaints. Not much more we can do.
> Zac
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