GPL and the Mac App Store

Christopher Forsythe chris at
Tue Jan 11 23:39:52 UTC 2011

Chatkit was indeed a separate short lived project. Essentially it
started off with a lot of planning, and then some people wanted to
depend on pre-existing libraries. Not a lot of real work was done,
which is why the project eventually stopped.


On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:32 PM, BJ Homer <bjhomer at> wrote:
> </lurk>
> While we're talking about crazy ideas, I know there was a project called
> ChatKit a while ago. As I understood it, it was essentially going to
> implement the various IM protocols in Obj-C and provide a simple Obj-C API
> for them. (I believe Adium developers were involved in it, so please correct
> me if I'm wrong.) If that's the case… well, would anyone have interest in
> resurrecting that project? If libpurple is the dependency dependency that
> prohibits inclusion in the Mac App Store, is it worth investigating
> replacing it?
> I acknowledge that this wouldn't be a quick solution; petitioning Apple to
> make the App Store licensing terms GPL-compatible in the meantime is not a
> bad option. But if that doesn't happen… well, how badly do people want Adium
> to be on the Mac App Store? If a framework like ChatKit were the only
> option, is there enough interest in the Mac App Store to explore that option
> again?
> I'd be willing to help. I've been needing a good open source project to work
> on for a while.
> -BJ
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Zachary West <zacw at> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 18:08, Christopher Forsythe <chris at>
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Stephen Holt <sholt at> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Jan 11, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Christopher Forsythe wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Can any of the libraries be taken out of adium in order to reduce this
>>> >> number?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > libglib is the big one, and no - libpurple depends on libglib.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> That's fine, I'd just need to start preparing to find all of these
>>> people and making a list.
>>> Do we know what kind of permission we'd need to ask for? Is something
>>> like this adequate? "hey, we want make adium easier to download for
>>> users, and we have to do x, y, and z to do that. We need your
>>> permission in order to do that. Is it ok?"
>>> Is the intention to put Adium in the store for free or for sale?
>> This isn't going to happen, there's a huge amount of people who have
>> contributed to the projects. If even only one of them isn't contactable or
>> reachable it's gone. We basically need to relicense a core set of GPL
>> libraries and that isn't going to happen.
>> It would be free.
>> I'm going to write a blogpost and hopefully have our users spam Apple with
>> complaints. Not much more we can do.
>> Zac

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