GPL and the Mac App Store

David Smith at
Tue Jan 11 23:43:09 UTC 2011

That's not true. Ofri (and to a lesser extent me) wrote quite a bit of
code, and had some interesting stuff working. The project stopped
because Ofri burned out from working too hard on it for a whole year.


On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Christopher Forsythe <chris at> wrote:
> Chatkit was indeed a separate short lived project. Essentially it
> started off with a lot of planning, and then some people wanted to
> depend on pre-existing libraries. Not a lot of real work was done,
> which is why the project eventually stopped.
> Chris
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:32 PM, BJ Homer <bjhomer at> wrote:
>> </lurk>
>> While we're talking about crazy ideas, I know there was a project called
>> ChatKit a while ago. As I understood it, it was essentially going to
>> implement the various IM protocols in Obj-C and provide a simple Obj-C API
>> for them. (I believe Adium developers were involved in it, so please correct
>> me if I'm wrong.) If that's the case… well, would anyone have interest in
>> resurrecting that project? If libpurple is the dependency dependency that
>> prohibits inclusion in the Mac App Store, is it worth investigating
>> replacing it?
>> I acknowledge that this wouldn't be a quick solution; petitioning Apple to
>> make the App Store licensing terms GPL-compatible in the meantime is not a
>> bad option. But if that doesn't happen… well, how badly do people want Adium
>> to be on the Mac App Store? If a framework like ChatKit were the only
>> option, is there enough interest in the Mac App Store to explore that option
>> again?
>> I'd be willing to help. I've been needing a good open source project to work
>> on for a while.
>> -BJ
>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Zachary West <zacw at> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 18:08, Christopher Forsythe <chris at>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Stephen Holt <sholt at> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > On Jan 11, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Christopher Forsythe wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Can any of the libraries be taken out of adium in order to reduce this
>>>> >> number?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > libglib is the big one, and no - libpurple depends on libglib.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> That's fine, I'd just need to start preparing to find all of these
>>>> people and making a list.
>>>> Do we know what kind of permission we'd need to ask for? Is something
>>>> like this adequate? "hey, we want make adium easier to download for
>>>> users, and we have to do x, y, and z to do that. We need your
>>>> permission in order to do that. Is it ok?"
>>>> Is the intention to put Adium in the store for free or for sale?
>>> This isn't going to happen, there's a huge amount of people who have
>>> contributed to the projects. If even only one of them isn't contactable or
>>> reachable it's gone. We basically need to relicense a core set of GPL
>>> libraries and that isn't going to happen.
>>> It would be free.
>>> I'm going to write a blogpost and hopefully have our users spam Apple with
>>> complaints. Not much more we can do.
>>> Zac

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